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Quote an old book written by superstitious people?

October 7, 2009

 
Mrfun, I am returning to this issue, because I missed pointing out, in my first answer, some most important facts that pertains to what you have written.
First, I will paste here a copy of your statement, which I want to address:
 
 I read a bit of www.doesgodexist.orgHere is a quote from it:  
  ‘If we know the creation has a beginning, we are faced with another logical question–was the creation caused or was it not caused? The Bible states, “In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.” Not only does the Bible maintain that there was a cause (a creation) but it also tells us what the cause was. It was God.’
 
It apparently feels no shame in quoting an old book written by superstitious people as evidence from the get-go. Find an argument that doesn’t require circular logic.
It’s better to say “I don’t know, I have no confidence in the present explanations” than to say “I know for sure without even remotely convincingly evidence… and you admit you don’t know, so I win!”
 

 Yes. Mrfun,  This is a very important point, which is very strong evidence in itself, that the books of the Bible could only have been written through the divine inspiration of God himself. Note that the Bible consists of 66 books (not one), written by 30 people. Among its authors were a tax collector, a herdsman, a doctor, some fishermen, a philosopher, a preacher, some prophets, a statesman, a king, and a rabbi. It was written over a period of about 1,500 years. Yet it has been found to be in perfect harmony, 100% accurate, scientifically, medically, and prophetically. (Compare the Bible, in these regards, with the Qur’an, or any other religious holy books of men). How can you explain this miraculous phenomena?

 Mrfun, You are absolutely correct, in saying that these were superstitious people of the time. Yes; they believed all kinds of strange things, such as the earth being flat, the earth being carried around on a turtle’s back, or Atlas, and such. Also, they did not have the medical and scientific knowledge that our world possesses today. Why do we not see such errors written in the Bible, these things that the people believed at the time it was written down? The Bible is packed with medical and scientific and prophetic knowledge far beyond the time it was written, and it is found to be 100% accurate, to this very day.
 
Let’s look at the Bible. Is it inspired by God? Is it accurate? 
 
First, I will post a fact as stated in the Bible, followed by the Biblical reference. And then, I will show the common belief of the day in which the author lived: 
 
Fact: Blood is essential to life. (Lev. 17:11-14)
Belief: Disease and spirits reside in blood. To cure disease, bleed patient.

Fact: Both male and female possess “seed of life.” (Gen. 3:15; 22:18).                         Belief: Male has baby in him. Woman = incubator.

Fact: Eating blood of animals forbidden. (Lev 17:12, 14)                                                 Belief: Raw blood used as beverage.

Fact: Do not eat animal that died naturally. (Lev. 17:15)                                                Belief: No restrictions on manner of death.

Fact: Quarantine of certain diseases. (Lev. 13-15)                                                            Belief: No isolation of diseased.

Fact: Do not eat pork, scavengers (in Moses’ day). (Lev. 11)                                      Belief: No food restrictions.

Fact: Principles of avoiding bacterial contamination — one person to another. (Lev. 15:19-33)                                                                                                                                 Belief: No rules of hygiene or isolation.

Fact: Human waste products to be buried. (Deut. 23:12-14)                                           Belief: Human waste left on ground.

Fact: Human body can be opened for surgery. (Gen. 2:21)                                                  Belief: First operations done secretly because populace threatened doctors.

Fact: Burning clothes, washing self after contact with deceased man or animal. (Num. 19:5-22)                                                                                                                                   Belief: No recognition of contagion problems.

Fact: Earth is round, day and night taking place simultaneously. (Isa. 40:22; Prov. 8:27; Luke 17:34)                                                                                                                                 Belief: Earth is flat.

Fact: Earth is not physically supported. (None mentioned and Job 26:7)                            Belief: Earth is held up by four elephants or Atlas (a man), etc.

Fact: The North is empty (Our North Pole points out of our galaxy). (Job 26:7)                 Belief: Seeing a few stars to the North refuted this idea until 1932.

Fact: Space and stars are too large to be measured or counted. (Gen. 15:5; Jer. 33:22) Belief: Attempts to number the astronomical bodies went on until 1932.

Fact: The creation sequence — plants, water creatures, birds, mammals, man, in that order. (Gen. 1:11-28)                                                                                                             Belief: Most had man first. All varied from the correct concept.

Fact: The age of everything in the creation is the same. (Gen.1:1)                               Belief: Different times for different objects.

 

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