My Comments on “Did God Create the Universe?” Stephen Hawking on CNN Larry King Live

Did God Create the Universe?

Stephen Hawking on CNN Larry King Live, My Posted Comments:

September 10th, 2010 11:08 pm ET

Does Hawking believe there was a beginning? Of, course no true scientist would say that science does not show that there was a beginning. So if there was a beginning, the next question is whether the creation was caused or not caused. If matter had a beginning and yet was uncaused, one must logically maintain that something would have had to come into existence out of nothing. From empty space with no force, no matter, no energy, and no intelligence, matter would have to become existent. Even if this could happen by some strange new process unknown to to science today, there is a logical problem.

   In order for matter to come out of nothing, all of our scientific laws dealing with the conservation of matter/energy would have to be wrong, invalidating all of chemistry. All of our laws of conservation of angular momentum would have to be wrong, invalidating all of physics. All of our laws of conservation of electric charge would have to be wrong, invalidating all of electronics and demanding that your TV set not work! Your television set may not work, but that is not the reason! In order to believe matter is uncaused, one has to discard knpwn laws and principles of science. No reasonable person is going to do this simply to maintain a personal position.

   The atheist’s assertion that matter is eternal is wrong. The atheist’s assertion that the universe is uncaused and self-existing is also incorrect. The Bible’s assertion that there was a beginning which was caused is supported strongly by the available scientific evidence.

    If we know that the creation had a beginning and we know that the beginning was caused, there is one last question for us to answer — what was the cause? The Bible tells us that God was the cause. WE are further told that the God who did the causing did so with planning, reason, and logic. Romans 1:2 tells us that we can know God is “through the things he has made.” The atheist, on the other hand, will try to convince us that we are the product of chance. Julian Huxley once said:

   “We are as much a product of blind forces as is the falling of a stone or the ebb and flow of the tides. We have just happened, and man was made flesh by a long series of singularly beneficial accidents.”

    The subject of design has been one that has been explored in many different ways. For most of us, simply looking at our newborn child is enough to rule out chance. Modern-day scientists like Paul Davies and Frederick Hoyle and others are raising elaborate objections to the use of chance in explaining natural phenomena. Principles of modern science have emerged in recent years. The anthropic principle, irreducible complexity, and architectural design is simply not a valid mechanism to explain the atom or life. If chance is not a valid, we are constrained to reject Huxley’s claim and to realize that we are the product of an intelligent God.

We have seen a practical proof of God’s existence in this brief study (highly edited here for brevity). A flood of questions arise at this point. Which God are we talking about? Where did God come from? Why did God create us? How did God create us?

     All of these and many more are answered in the same way–by looking at the evidence in a practical, common sense way. If you are interested in pursuing these things in more detail, we invite you to contact us…. Does God Exist?, PO Box 2704, South Bend, IN 46680-2704, FAX: 269-687-9431, E-MAIL jncdge@aol.com, Home page: http://www.doesgodexist.org

    This has been in part from a pamphlet by John N. Clayton (Renowned scientist and ex-atheist) titled: “A PRACTICAL MAN’S PROOF OF GOD” This is a part of a program of service titled Does Gos Exist? “The purpose of the program is to provide thinking, seeking people with scientific evidence that God does exist and that the Bible is His Word. It is our conviction that all men can logically and rationally believe in God…” Please check out: http://www.doesgodexist.org–dc

　

September 10th, 2010 10:05 pm ET

The title of the book is very puzzling to me, “The Grand Design.”
That title seems to contradict what the book is saying.
Isn’t Hawking now saying that there is no “Grand Design.”? So, I guess Hawking is saying there is a “Grand Design,” but it is purely accidental without meaning? This sounds so strange coming from an expert and renowned mathematician and physicist. –dc

　

September 10th, 2010 9:57 pm ET

From another posting: “We won’t know the answer to that question, and never will…”I certainly do not buy into that kind of reasoning. “Seek, and ye shall find..” –dc

　

September 10th, 2010 9:54 pm ET

The questions Hawking just presented, are easily answered. The answer is GOD. We must understand and appreciate that we see things through our own eyes and place, which is not a whole picture of what is, but only through our own limited senses. The nature of God is not so limited. It would be good to make a list of what is written in the Bible about the nature of God. Most people are not aware of these attributes of the nature of God. All these things need to be considered and discussed. –dc

　

September 10th, 2010 9:45 pm ET

Faith is not blind. We learn about things invisible, from that which is visible. Once our learning has been founded, –we gain faith in it. If the source of our faith has been tested and tried, and has never let us down, –then we begin to have faith in the source itself. –dc

　

September 10th, 2010 9:42 pm ET

So far, this is all about theory. How can Hawking be so absolute? Of course, I haven’t read his book yet, so I will be looking… –dc

　

September 10th, 2010 9:36 pm ET

Considering the miraculous accuracy about science and nature, written beyond it’s time, and contrary to what the people of that day believed, the Bible certainly appears to know what it is talking about. Also, consider the accuracy of foretelling the future. The Bible has checkability, where other holy books, of men, do not. –dc

　

September 10th, 2010 9:27 pm ET

The panel might do well to discuss what is the true nature of God. Obviously, God is not an old man in the sky. The Bible itself is very descriptive is describing the nature of God, and are they aware of this and considering these attributes as being the true nature of God? –dc

‘Bullying’ not the real reason for Teenage Suicides

DonColeCartoons wrote: My comment on CNN Larry King Live blog, after watching the program with Bill Cosby: doncolecartoons April 13th, 2010 9:32 pm ET Low self-esteem, kids taught in school –theory as fact, that humans evolved from lower life forms, no God or higher intelligence involved, no appreciation for parents or value of life. I was disappointed that Bill Cosby or the discussion never touched on this. These teenagers have no clue how to handle life tribulations, or hurts. This is really, or should be, about why there is such a high rate of suicides amongst teenagers. –dc 4/13/2010 9:37 PM EDT on dailyrecord.com

SeaWorld Tragedy

My E-mail to Bill O’Reilly, Fox News, Ref: the SeaWorld Tragedy:  Also published on Larry King Live, March 2nd, 2010 12:13 am ET

Bill,  I think the whale got the trainer’s hair (pony tail) caught in its teeth, and that is what led to the resulting tragedy.

Donald Cole

Dover, NJ

My post on Larry King Live, Defending the Bible as the word of God

Posted 7/9/2009 7:43 PM EDT on dailyrecord.com

Donald Cole, Dover NJ July 9th, 2009 7:05 pm ET

To Amand L. Archambeault,

You are free to disagree, but I do not see how the evidences hold up to what you have said here, about the Bible not being of the word of God. I suspect. that you have been ill taught, parroting your own religion’s teachings, without having done any real research yourself, to see if these things are true. Of course, what any one believes doesn’t amount to a hill of beans, unless they have substance or evidences to back it up. So following is, –what say I:

First of all; realize that there is good and bad science, as well as good and bad theology. For example, this business of some preachers saying that through the Bible, we can tell how old the earth is, –is totally false. Every good scientist knows that the earth is a lot older than 6-8000 years old. The problem is not with the Bible; the problem is with the preachers. The Biblical means used to arrive at their conclusions do not hold up. The Bible does not say how old the earth is, and one can not use the geneologies shown in the Bible, and such, for that purpose, for which they were never intended. It’s scientists vs. preachers, not science vs. the Bible.

Here are some of the Historical and scientific reasons to believe that the Bible is God’s Word:

Fulfilled Prophecy: While the account of Jesus’ ministry may have been brief, it was, nevertheless, complete enough to establish the Bible as the indisputable Word of God. Writing history in advance or prophesying with absolute accuracy is something only God can do. In harmony with this, we find that Jesus’ ministry was preceded by several hundred prophecies, which served to establish, beyond a reasonable doubt, that he was the true son of God.

Checkability: By checkability, we refer to statements in the Bible that can be checked to see whether or not they are accurate.

Brevity: When historians or storytellers write and politicians or preachers speak, they are seldom brief. Conversely, the Bible is simple and to the point, especially in the Old Testament Genesis account of creation and in the New Testament style of writing in general.

The Author: Perhaps the most important reason to choose the Bible as the Word 0f God has to do with its author. When we examine the other religions in the world, we find that all of the responsibility for establishing a relationship with God falls upon the seeker—humanity must reach up to God. God does not help at all in these religious systems. It is up to each individual to reach the goal—whether the goal is Nirvana or Brahma or whatever it might be. If a person is not capable of reaching the goal using his own strength and merit, than he may have to make repeated attempts by being reincarnated over and over again.

Checkable Biblical Accuracy:

In each of the following cases the Biblical writer had an opportunity to either state the widely held erroneous belief of the day, or to state a factually true description. In each case what was stated was true, demonstrating knowledge beyond the writer’s ability and thus necessarily from God.

First will be: Fact As Stated In Bible, followed by Biblical Reference, and then the Common Belief Of Day In Which Author Lived:

Blood is essential to life. (Lev.17:11-14). Disease and spirits reside in blood. To cure disease, bleed patient.

Both male and female possess “seed of life.” (Gen. 3:15; 22:18). Male has baby in him. Woman = incubator.

Eating blood of animals forbidden. (Lev.17:12, 14). Raw blood used as beverage.

Don’t eat animal that died naturally. (Lev.17:15). No restrictions on manner of death.

Quarantine of certain diseases. (Lev.13-15). No isolation of diseased.

Don’t eat pork, scavengers (In Moses’ day). (Lev.11). No food restrictions.

Principles of avoiding bacterial contamination – one person to another. (Lev.15:19-33). No rules of hygiene or isolation.

Human waste products to be buried. (Deut.23:12-14). Human waste left on ground.

Human body can be opened for surgery. (Gen.2:21). First operations done secretly because populace threatened doctors.

Burning clothes, washing self after contact with deceased man or animal. (Num.19:5-22). No recognition of contagion problems.

Earth is round, day and night taking place simultaneously. (Isa.40:22, Prov.8:27, Luke 17:34). Earth is flat.

Earth is not physically supported. (None mentioned and Job 26:7). Earth held up by four elephants or Atlas (a man), etc.

The North is Empty (Our North Pole points out of our galaxy). (Job 26:7). Seeing a few stars to the North refuted this idea until 1932.

Space and stars are too large to be measured or counted. (Gen.15:5; Jer.33:22). Attempts to number the astronomical bodies went on until 1932.

The creation sequence – plants, water creatures, birds, mammals, man, in that order. (Gen.1:11-28). Most had man first. All varied from correct concept.

The age of everything in the creation is the same. (Gen.1:1). Different times for different objects.

The continents have floated away from a singular original land mass. (Gen.1:9; Gen.10:25). Each continent was autonimous
(until 1970).

Hubert Spencer’s scientific principles. (Gen.1). No scientific system of statements.

Lightning is produced naturally. (Jere.10:13; 51:16). Gods throw lightning bolts.

All men are blood relatives. (Acts 17:26). Men have different origins.

The water cycle. (Eccl.1:7, Job 36:27-28). Gods pour new water on land continuously.

Use of genetics in livestock. (Gen.30:30-43). No recognition of inherited physical properties.

Snow and ice seen as valuable. (Job 38:22). Snow and ice seen as a scourge and waste.

Seaworthy ratio for ship construction 30-5-3. (Gen.6:15). Ship ratio not considered; only the beauty.

Concepts of id and ego. (Rom.7). God induced behavior explanations.

Animals can be changed (mutated). (Gen.3:14). No change possible.

Directional correctness. (Luke 10:30). Directional error.

Distance accuracy. (Luke 24:13). Errors in distances.

Hittite nation’s existence. Denied until 1906.

Now, I myself am no scientist, but I do listen to scientists.
For starters, I suggest you check out renowned scientist, and ex-atheist, John Clayton’s web-site: www.doesgodexist.org You will discover much of what I have said here, therein, –and much more on this subject. –dc

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